THe Quote

The Quote
6.24.10

I recently received the above quotation in an email recently. I decided to discuss this with D’neirf Enigami, who is a devout modern progressive. I thought that I would get his thoughts on this quote and asked him to reference it and comment on it in terms of how it relates to the modern progressive movement. Here is the interview:

WS Hello D’neirf, how are you today?

DE How could I be with the wealthy persecuting the poor?

WS OK….glad to hear you are doing well?

DE And what about big oil?

WS Now, D’neirf, I gave you the following quote:
“You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.”

WS I thought it would be interesting if you could give your personal perspective about this quote and your perspective about this in relationship to the modern progressive philosophy. I thought we could go through it line by line.

DE I can tell you whoever wrote this was a mad person. Out of touch with the times and how the new order is being established. People like this should not be allowed to run around loose.

WS OK, but could you please get on to the quote.

DE Yes, of course, I know, it goes against the beliefs and thinking of progressive people every where. Where does someone get the audacity to write something like this, besides the First Amendment? This is very dangerous thinking if the progressive agenda is to be moved forward and make the world the utopia we know it can become if the modern progressive philosophy is followed and adopted.
I will examine this quote line by line and see how this type of subversive and dangerous thought can undermine the modern progressive plan.

WS Great, the first line is “You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.”

DE The problem with statement is obvious. Any progressive thinker, worth their salt, knows that you can help the poor by destroying the rich, duh. That’s the point. The rich are evil, we all know that. Many of them have worked hard to become rich. Do we really want to promote the idea that if you work hard and risk that you can prosper…I hope not.

WS You don’t think it is good to work hard?

DE Please, you are so old school, you probably have a copy of the Bill of Rights on your phone.

WS So. The second line states that “You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.”

DE That is exactly what you want to do. That is how we achieve equality. It also allows the truly enlightened modern progressives control the unenlightened masses, those who hold on to the outdated idea of life, liberty and justice for all, now if that could be changed to “for some” then maybe a progressive monologue could begin.

WS So you, modern progressives are willing to enter into a dialog with those who disagree with you?

DE I said, monologue and no, not really, the unenlightened, like yourself are tedious. Next line please.

WS You are a piece of work D’neirf.

DE I will take that as a compliment.

WS the next line is “You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.” What do you think about that.

DE Who wants to bring about prosperity? You have prosperity there is less control. The more we spend the less prosperity, the more control. I don’t see why the unenlightened don’t get that, control is a good thing, isn’t it?

WS Freedom and liberty are good things.

DE Overrated and unrealistic if you want an orderly society.

WS What is your idea of orderly?

DE Where the modern progressive movement in power, I mean control.

WS I see.

DE I doubt it but one day, I am sure you will. NEXT>

WS “You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.” What do you think about that.

DE Was the incompetent who wrote this crazy? Of course you can lift the wage earner up by pulling down the wage payer. It is simple you make him pay more and pay more taxes so that when wage payer goes out of business the wage earners and I might add, the wage payer now will still have an income that will paid with the taxes collected by the government that have been collected from other wage payers that have not yet been put out of business. Boy, this isn’t rocket science.

WS You mean you actually think that destroying business is good?

DE Are business owners rich or have the potential to be rich, I rest my case.

WS OK, now this next line, I am sure that you will agree with, “You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.”

DE I don’t agree at all! Of course you can, how are modern progressives supposed win elections? It is essential that you not only pit poor against wealthy but you also have to pit the poor against the middle class and the middle class against the wealthy. If you are really ambitious if you want to be a modern progressive on the move up learn how to race bait. If you master creating strife between the races, try your hand at starting friction between those of faith. If you master that, you are ready then go after creating gender strife, for example with the above line, say some thing like “WOW! Whoever wrote that must be a sexiest look at the word he used…brotherhood? What an insult, to exclude women like that. The point is if you want to move up in the modern progressive movement, use all the tools available. Remember Political Correctness is your friend.

WS “You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.” You must be in favor of people taking initiative; you and other modern progressives seem to be taking initiative?

DE Duh? Who wants to build character or courage? Why would you want to build character or courage? How would that advance the progressive agenda? It doesn’t. Why do you think that modern progressives have been so diligent to support the current educational system? If you don’t require accountability or responsibility or achievement and you just advance people for being around then you have the problem with developing character and courage solved. The best way not to develop character and courage is just not have it taught or required in school. You don’t listen very well.

WS This is the last line of the quote “You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.”

DE Does this guy have a learning disability? Who wants to help people? And certainly we don’t want them to do anything for themselves! That would defeat the purpose wouldn’t it? If unenlightened did for themselves they would be as easy to control and they might develop some of that character and courage. Independence, character and courage are not allies to the modern progressive. If you are you won’t want to destroy the rich, or weaken the strong. If you had character you wouldn’t want to pull down the wage payer. Someone with character would never think or believe that inciting class hatred or any other hatred was a legitimate political tool. Building character or courage or promoting independence or empowering people is certainly not part of the modern progressive agenda or plan. The modern progressive agenda promotes, no, embraces, dependence, lack of courage and character in the unenlightened. I don’t get it.

WS I agree with you, you don’t. Thanks for taking the time.

DE I am always glad to bring a little light in to the life of someone like you. By the way, which one of your right wing, unenlightened, racist friends came up with that ridiculous quote.

WS It wasn’t a friend’s quote.

DE Well, whoever it is, he is an idiot and could never understand the difficulties of keeping a society together or how difficult it is to govern. So who’s quote.

WS Abraham Lincoln